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theater i
am surprised this movie was shown, although I support ifc's right to show
it. i am opposed to government censorship of any kind, but i do believe
with the right to show this film comes a responsibility to anticipate
predictable, undesirable outcomes. this film encourages others who may
confuse fame with notariety to follow this directors' example: ifc may
then have blood on their hands. I hope, however, that someone is in the process of turning the tables on director Frank Gallagher. I would like to see how he is coping with the aftermath of the tragedy that he and his crew facilitated. The ultimate irony of course is that Gallagher has made a brilliant film and Tom, who couldn't, is dead. On the brighter side, do you think Adele is still single? Carmine from NYC Good Documentary We all go through so many failures in this life and often we think about taking our own life when we do fail. But Tom was a spoiled brat. He had won the money and he could easily have let go of the movie at any time. What he tried to do was live his movie through the documentary, because he knew the movie he had made probably would never be that successful. This guy was obsessed with being a success and for the first time in his life he was confronted with failure and did not know how to handle it. AB They Shoot Movies... Great movie! I've never written in praising a movie before, but this one just really hit me...the reality of it!!! Borderline genius; the interplay between the two movies that were actually trying to go on at the same time. I'll be going on to theyshootmovies.com after this to see what else there is! Wicked!! James Elliott Brooklyn, NY theyshootmovies I
watched your film here in my apartment from 4:15 am to 6:00 am EST today.
This movie should have never been shown. It is a major disrespect to Tom
Paulson and to his family and friends. There is a line that should not
be crossed... you have crossed it. That
was awesome.Really powerful shit.Yet another example of why IFC is some
of the best stuff on tv.Please keep up the great programing. Justin Miami,Florida
The
Making of Mirage You've
got to be kidding me. NO ONE had a clue as to how alienated Tom was
becoming? Frankly, I'm pissed off and appalled at the lengths Mr. Gallagher
felt he had to go. By deciding to keep the cameras rolling at the same
time he must have undeniably been viewing (as I had) the deterioration
of Tom's emotional constitution (from unconfident to fragile to
unstable) without thinking to intervene (either on or off camera) makes
me wonder "how amazing did he think the appeal of this documentary
would be?" But, I don't even mean to single out the director. I'm sure
any one of the people following Tom around until his last day in Vegas
could have seen that something in his demeanor had darkened dramatically.
The last vestiges of a dying civilization were not being captured on film
here (not that that would make this sort of outcome acceptable, but possibly
plausible?) -no, only a twenty-seven year old man attempting to make a
movie (good, bad or ugly), and now he's dead? The truth is stranger than
fiction and much more horrifying. To: nobody@theyshootmovies.com i
caught the film about half way thru....tom's plight is not foreign to
me or many people i suppose. one doesn't have to label oneself an artist
(acting, scripting) to realize once we pass certain stages in life...guess
what? that is what we have been doing all along. it becomes an existential
dream..why carry on...why try...why care? what the hell! by the time the
film concluded i was madly and deeply in love with tom. he was me....
i him. his plight...the
plight of humanity. the difference was he took it seriously. maybe
we should take a lesson from him. the film scared the shit out of me.
it is so real. thank you, ed frazier...austin, texas
Wow.
I'm in the embryotic stages of making a film and seeing this man's
ultimate journey in film and in life makes you think about why we do what
we do and what is the real driving force behind who we are. It seems that
he killed himself and also would have been able to pay the Ari guy so
that shows you how confused and at one with his decision he was. as a
documentary it all makes sense but what a shitty way to get somebody's
soul into your camera. I can't really think of anything else to say. I
don't want to see the film if and when it comes out only because I'd feel
like a sadistic voyuer and probably wouldn't take away anything from the
film but I would be trying to figure out the man behind the camera and
I'm not sure I need to look any further than the documentary for that.
P.S. could you loan me 40 grand so I can make my film, I'd do just about
anything, include let you film my demise and then solicit a reaction via
the internet, SICK FUCKING BASTARDS Fascinating.
Truly reality based programming. I found myself gripped to watching this
documentary. And also a truly tragic tale. (It)
shows the cold blooded and callused side of the business of making movies
where the artistic vision gets sacrificed. I found it more than a little
coincidental that the film "Mirage" that he was making was about failure
and that he considered himself a failure by his in- ability to get the
money to finish his vision. But very compelling......raw emotional drama
with fair measure of honesty. I hope a measure of his vision endures through
the final cut. Can't wait to see the movie!! james Great
documentary. We most definitely can get too focused and as a result end
up putting some reason and logic aside. I would like to know what happens
to the film--will it end up making money in the end? I believe there is
a fine line between the most successful and people like Tom. Indeed, Tom
may have become a highly successful filmmaker if he had endured. Toward
the end Tom was unreasonable in his requests from freinds and business
associates. Would anyone disagree with that? Maybe he took his life to
make a statement of, "Here's your money--that's all you all wanted, and
you got it. Life shouldn't be about money." POWERFUL=
THEY SHOOT MOVIES DON'T THEY CAUGHT
THE DOCUMENTARY MIDWAY THROUGH AND IMMEDIATELY GOT CAUGHT UP. POWERFUL
FOOTAGE TO SEE A HUMAN HIT ROCK BOTTOM. HARD TO BELIEVE, HOWEVER, THAT
HE HAD THE MONEY IN HIS POCKET AFTER GOING TO THE CASINO. STRANGE THING,OUR
FASCINATION WITH THE MATERIAL, MAN SELLING HIS SOUL=FRIENDS, FAMILY, SPOUSE)
FOR HIS QUEST TO BE RICH AND FAMOUS THROUGH HIS ART AND THEN FAILING AND
SEEING SUICIDE AS THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE. STRANGE THING ABOUT MYSELF?
FIND A PERSON'S FAILURE AND SUICIDE AS FASCINATING ENTERTAINMENT.
The
truly miserable ones in the film are the "producer" characters who think
they got it all figured out. They are the ones who ultimately "cash-in"
on any trends. Look at how compromised and spineless the system is that
he (Tom) is up against. That anyone is up against for that matter.
They shoot movies... What a great piece of art!!! Ironic that this was actually made b-4 Blair Witch, yet not shown untill recently??!! Keep up the good work! I wanna see "Mirage"... hope someone jumps on this bandwagon, cuz' this could be huge!!!! Let's see the entertainment industry prove this wrong... distribute this! Give funding to Nobody Productions! Let's see what else they are capable of The County He gave them what they wanted Whether or not Tom Paulson is dead, one out of 2 movies he produced was a resounding sucess. Cristina Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 21:46:36
-0500 Subject: Wow...
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A
Powerful Film I'm not sure how to respond to. Voyeurism. Sadism. Filth.
Disgust. Genius. Matt Jordan Alan Meeker wrote: More "They Shoot Movies..." I wrote several times when I first saw the film, and after watching it again I wanted to see what other people thought. I am struck by several things: (1) the continued confusion about the 'mocku-' vs 'docu-', -mentary. I think that if it's a 'mocku-' then the writers should win some sort of big and meaningful award. If it's a 'docu-', then IFC should be thanked for having the balls to air it. Also if it's a 'docu-' it marks a point in time where the well-founded tenet of nonintervention venerated in nature documentary, has come to human documentary. This is the sympathetic harmony to American interpersonal isolation. My only question is: Are the documentarists really so far "advanced" that they can live with themselves? (2) The urge to view this suicide as dying for Art. That's just infantile. Clearly he died, as is said early in the film, because he is afraid to fail...or to succeed. This suicide is the result of what psychiatrists call: narcissistic injury. It is unimportant. (3) The degree of upset around the real, not real question. My work involves suicidal people, and the families of people who have suicided. IFC has presented an accurate portrayal of the masturbatory nature of the vast majority of suicide attempts and successes. What is the problem? Amy They
Shoot Movies When
are you gonna show it again? I missed the very beginning but couldn't
stop watching to the very end. Is it real? If it is are you going to show
Mirage? Got
my attention 1/4 way into the film. Documentary?
Mockumentary? Either way, it grasped my attention and was a very interesting
piece. With all these "real life" TV shows and voyueristic urges in the
world of film/Television entertainment, I guess you could say it fit right
in. As for the "rules" of shooting a documentary.. Since when did you
have to follow rules to shoot anything? The rules of yesterday are suppose
to be broken today. If they aren't, we wil be stuck with the same old
crap again, and again and again. History doesn't need to be repeated anymore.
did mirage ever make it into the theaters? i'd like to see it although i think i already have. erica They
shoot movies don't they I
don't know if it was real or not, but this is a great example of quality
filmmaking made outside of Hollywood and the networks. Bravo!
The
maker of mirage. If
the documentary wasn't real, then as a film, it was rather shallow in
its message of hopeless futility -- to end one's life because one cannot
attain an honest vision of their "painting" on film is almost an absurdity.
One could merely take up painting instead, or sculpture. A more expressive,
evolved scenario could have developed instead where the filmmaker (Tom)
realizes the emptiness of the external world, and ultimately realize that
his film is forever inside himself -- beautiful, eternal, personal, only
visible to himself. And be content with that. If on the other hand the
doc was real, then how tragic a story.. to have tried so hard, yet given
up so easily. Provocative,
intrusive, quasi-real life drama and disturbing. The obsession of such
a single minded, desperate pursuit with the real risk of life ruining
failure is both engaging (as we all at some level have "been there") and
frustrating. The theme has been played out on many stages before for skaters,
dancers, actors, entrepreneurs and others who sacrifice social life,
personal time and resources and often the friendships and relationships
of those around them as the strive to attain some personal goal or perhaps
the idea of the pursuit of a goal(s). The question is not is this right
or wrong but how do we develop a rational perspective that allows us to
fail, at times, and still thrive. Hopefully the viewers will pause and
reflect on the message in the documentary (and "Mirage") and take a moment
to think about it's message for everyone's life. Actually, I think the
movie "Mirage" is actually "They
Shoot Movies, Don't They" I
don't know what to think. Beauty and pain. Beauty from pain. Whether the
story is true or not doesn't matter. The emotion is true. The thought
is true. What makes life worth living? Where does the individual draw
the line, and say, "I will go no further."? When does the art become more
important than the artist, if it does at all? Life reflected in art reflected
in life and so on. They can't be separated. Thank you for the film.
A
commendable piece of work. I found myself laughing one moment, and tortured
the next. The scene with "Ari" is hilarious, and the producer character
is most effective. The films ending is with such sour-ness, not a clear
indictment of the hollywood system but a DEFINITE indication as such.
A fine effort. The DV format shows to be quite effective. Most heartening.
Oh yeah... and I heard somewhere that "some people" thought that Spinal
Tap was a real band too. *sheesh* it
made me think. About success. About failure. And what I might do if my
ultimate dream doesn't come true. That, to me, speaks volumes. So all
of you quasi-intellectual filmmaker wanna-bes out there should really
start considering what appeals to real live people in real live audiences,
rather than what's usually done (or not) in documentaries and films.
1:
(The most probable supposition) This was a smart, Michael Moore-ish satire
on the hollywood industry and how it drives crazed individuals even crazier.
Case in point: The Hollywood Buffalo site is way too one-sided in its
opinions and accusations and fails to provide a neutral backstory on the
real events leading up to the "suicide" of the real Paulson. Plus the
note by the straight-out-of-Altman's-ThePlayer-producer which says "Ironically,
I believe this will provide us with the happy ending we are looking for"
is too sadistic for even a souless individual like that.
Captivating.
Enthralling. Poignant. "Blair Witch project" take off, or cinema verite
- no matter: it worked. Sadly, I never "liked" Tom enough tocare if he
"did it" or not. But the film hooked us all, and for that I salute you.
I hope all my wannabe Hollywood friends see it! I do hate this town and
all it stands for... Reality
verses Fiction: the line is all but gone now. I just hope films like this
don't destroy the small market for real documentry films. Still, I thought
it was quite effective. I should just be a little more careful what I
put on when I can't sleep at 4:15sm on a Thursday morning. It almost made
me want to give up on my own screenplay ambitions, but only for a moment.
I'm
a psychiatrist working in an ER, suicidality and suicide attempts are
by far the most frequent presentations to my service. I thought about
this film for a long time because I couldn't understand why a 'documentarist'
would leave a person so clearly suicidal alone in a room with a video
camera. I can't remember if they knew about the gun. I came up with a
lot of possibilities: that it was a mockumentary, that the 'documentarists'
were cynically taking a pose of non-intervention to get a spectacular
end to the movie, that they were dirt stupid... Whoever wrote the script
happened upon an idea psychiatrists have long known. A high proportion
of completed suicides involve a collusion between the dead person and
the people closest to him/her at the time. The survivors collude not out
empathic atunement; except rarely in cases chronic, painfull, debilitating
disease; but out of their inability to tolerate the suffocating demands
made on them. This explains, at least partially, the tremendous guilt
survivors often experience. Very good work. Thank-you.
They Shoot Movies... Derek Tutschulte
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David
Holzman Lives!! Astonishing versimilitude! I was 98% taken in when I saw the second half of the first screening several months ago. The 2% that was not taken in hung primarily on my faith in human nature, that no one would distribute the documentary of such an unvarnished tragedy without more humanizing context--truly a testimony to the razor's edge irony with which the piece captures this death of a film salesman."David Holzman's Diary" for the millennium--Bravo!! Aaron Edison they
shoot anything dont they A little to real... he didnt win the money...no way...Hard to believe no friend or girlfriend could get him to shelve it for a while. Like she said..."you'll get yours no matter what happens".Arent you glad the poor clueless golfer who removed the bmw badge from his steering wheel for the struggle effect gave you a definitive ending? He knew he couldn't finish his film...but he wanted to give some meaning and purpose to his efforts. A man who has never failed in his life had to succeed for your documentry. Fxxx You. You dealt him the last hand and he was forced to play it out. HE WAS A WINNER. YOU ARE THE LOSERS. THOR Demian Entrekin wrote: This is a really interesting
film to watch about films and what it takes to make them. The guy was
going crazy but you couldn't tell until the end when they show what he
looked like at the start.
Had me up until 2:30am Mockumentary
or not, I have to admit I was completely fascinated with the plight of
Tom Paulson.
I went to bed
with chills. Probably one of the darkest movies I've seen in ages. No
pseudo wannabe Hollywood
sophisticated cynicsm here. The movie was excellent.
thought
it was fantastic. I couldn't leave the room. Didn't want to miss anything.
Very unnerving.
catches our fears as artists but works as riveting entertainment as well
(if a little masochistic
to watch). Helps to prove (along with movies like celebration and the
last broadcast) that DV works as it's own film medium. i know a few people
who'd love this movie. I hope to get them to watch it. very interested
in seeing what this group's next project is. ...or
they work for the studio. If you believe this movie was a real documentary,
then you are a complete dolt. It was really good, however. The mirror
relationship between the life of the main character of "Mirage" and Tom's
life was very Baudrillard. Very postmodern flick all around. It's a huge
cynical take on Hollywood and a shot at its values, which isn't all that
uncommon, but it doesn't valorize the whole romantic "starving artist
in his garret" thing, which is a difficult balance to strike.
Is it just me, or have
the lines blurred so much now that life and art are completely interchangeable,
ndistiguisheable, fungible? If it's Art, then - damn! - it is so true.
If it's Life, then -damn!- that's Art... Sharon waiting
to see and hear the gunshot I
was in bed when this came on, ready to fall asleep, but couldnt until
the final credit ran, though
I liked the film, it was amazing for me to see the ammount of credits
at the end, and some of the names involved....I gotta also admit, it had
me hooked on believing the whole thing, until that smoking producer guy
came along-but the thread lasted up until the suicide scene-was I watching
someone about to blow his brains out, or was I watching a film-either
way I felt affected... anyhow, kudos, and cant wait for the next one guys!
A
Clever Film Both
my wife and I were completely taken in by this ultra-clever and convincingly
executed movie. Only until the absolute very end did I grasp what was
going on, including the delicious use of the word "mirage." I was emotionally
engaged with the characters to a degree greater than anything I've seen
on TV in years. It's really fun to be captivated by a movie.
They
Shoot Movies This "documentary" works on so many levels. Dramatically it was involving and revealing. Thematically, I think there was much to think and meditate upon. Even the theme of how far a documentary can intrude into someone's life was well done. I would highly recommend this film to anyone, but especially to those of us who watch a lot of independent films that are off-beat. -- SrCharles@Mindless.Com (Charles Castelli) To: nobody@theyshootmovies.com Subject: lying hollywood faggot
assholes "Cutting edge"
apparently means "deceptive"., you lying hollywood faggot assholes.
It was easy enough to believe (in a state of 'suspended Subject: Re: hello Subject: bye I never saw anyone kill
themselves before until I saw this. It made some things clear for me and
no I know that things don't have to be so hard all the time and they can
end. I sort of didn't want to write you, but I guess i did. not to make
you feel guilty or something, but because, what you did affected what
I'm doing, and we have a connection now. I guess I'm even part of the
story a little. I've just been to the "they shoot movies don't they" website. And I must confess that i've been a fan since the begining. I saw it last night....and about twice in the last 6 months. Nice work...I don't buy any of it as being real...but I like most of what you communicate. this is the third time I have written this email. I had previously stated all the things I thought you had did wrong and what you film should have really emphasized...but who the fuck am I? I'm a jealous filmmaker because you had the forethought to position and differentiate yourself....nice! I hope to be in the can in several months and then look to kick your ass in the video arena :-0 anyway...it's money..talk it up...but get that goddamn DVTHeater Icon of the fucking screen...it fucks up your film...we all know it's IFC..tell 'em to fuck off Marcus Russell |
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